“"I'm with you, old man. Whether you like it or not."”
Built from 1066 curated wishlist rolls for this Machine Gun. Perks marked essential appear in every roll of a recommendation; alternatives are the other perks curators call worth keeping.
Recommended rolls
Community wishlist roll
336 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. For Strand synergy and clearing adds, in the first treat perk column Tear spreads ~4m AoE Strand Sever on a crit kill to reduce damage output to ×0.6 from enemies affected, or Hatchling spawns a Strand Threadling on a crit kill or three crit hits within 3s of each other. In the second column Frenzy boosts Handling and Reload Speed by +100 and boosts damage by ×1.15 for a refreshable 7.2s after being in combat for 12s - that's dealing or taking damage, or Collective Action boosts damage by ×1.2 after collecting an elemental pickup or throwing a Strand tangle for 7s, refreshable up to a maximum 12s. Finally, Dragonfly procs a 4.5m [weapon energy matching] explosion on a crit kill - this is treated as weapon damage so inherits damage boosts and also procs weapon effects and subclass fragments. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Tear
High-Caliber Rounds
Frenzy
Collective Action
Dragonfly
Hatchling
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
240 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS in a damage phase against a single yellow-bar target in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particular with Prismatic builds. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size work best for a boss damage roll. For a sustained damage roll, in the first trait perk column Envious Assassin overflows the magazine to up to ×3 capacity at 12.5% of base size per kill with primary weapons and 22.5% with specials during add phases before readying, or Reconstruction refills 25% of the magazine every 5.5s up to ×2 capacity when stowed or not firing. In the second column for damage, Elemental Honing grants an escalating stack of damage up to ×1.35 for 23s for each elemental damage type inflicted, which can be refreshed with a new damage type until you've run through all 5, when you're running a Prismatic build, or Bait and Switch boosts damage by ×1.3 for 11s for doing damage with your other two weapons. Alternatively, to use your overfilled mag, Target Lock stacks up to 5 times on repeated hits within 0.2s of each other for up to ×1.4 damage at 110.33% of base magazine capacity. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Envious Assassin
Elemental Honing
Extended Mag
Bait and Switch
Target Lock
Reconstruction
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
112 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, in the first trait perk column Demolitionist generates chunk grenade ability energy on kills and an instant magazine refill on grenade use. In the second column, Dragonfly procs a 4.5m Strand explosion on a crit kill - this is treated as weapon damage so inherits damage boosts and also procs weapon effects like Demolitionist, or Frenzy which, after being in combat for 12s - that's dealing or taking damage - boosts Handling and Reload Speed by +100 and boosts damage by ×1.15 for a refreshable 7.2s. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Demolitionist
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
High-Caliber Rounds
Dragonfly
Frenzy
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
99 wishlist rolls
Inspired by @PodvsEnemies Podcast vs Enemies episode 106 from 18 June 2024 (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GYlriUxhFqNHGLqb84C1G?si=bb5a2c9b339d4c35) with @ImpetusAlways, @CourtProjects and @Saint_Kabr. First-choice PvE pick for add-clearing in end-game content. Shapeable. Pro Memoria - which means "for memory" in Latin, and is also the name for a formal note embodying the written record of a diplomatic discussion - is the first in a new aggressive frame LMG subtype. It's described as "high damage", so should be good in a few different roles but with high recoil, look to the to provide help with control and a little extra handling. As the magazine perk, Ricichet Rounds helps a little more with recoil control, or you can use High-Caliber or Armor-Piercing Rounds for additional combat effects. As a "heavy scout rifle" for add clearing, it never hurts to have a bigger mag, so you can use Reconstruction or Envious Assassin in the first trait slot, and then Desperate Measures is easy to proc with Transcendent for up to +30% damage, you should be creating plenty of strand tangles to proc Collective Action's +20% damage, or Frenzy is a reliable +15% plus maxxed handling and reload speed. The Dealer's Choice origin trait is nice to have (who doesn't love more super energy?) - with two or three Pale Heart weapons, you'll notice the difference! Recommended MW: Handling or Stability, with a Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-MajorSpec, PvE-EndGame, PvE-God, M+KB, Controller
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Reconstruction
Ricochet Rounds
Desperate Measures
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Smallbore
Polygonal Rifling
High-Caliber Rounds
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Envious Assassin
Frenzy
Collective Action
Demolitionist
Community wishlist roll
56 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, in the first trait perk column Demolitionist generates chunk grenade ability energy on kills and an instant magazine refill on grenade use. In the second column, you can use those grenades to help proc Desperate Measures which provides up to ×3 stacks for ×1.3 damage for a refreshable 7.5s for a weapon and then two ability kills. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Desperate Measures
Demolitionist
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
High-Caliber Rounds
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
pandapaxxy
pve
mkb
controller
48 wishlist rolls
pandapaxxy (PvE / M+KB / Controller): "A new frame approaches. Pro Memoria is an interesting weapon slotting next to Adaptive frames for the best add clear weapon, and Rapid-Fire frames for damage. Reconstruction or Envious Assassin are both great for using Pro Memoria as your main weapon. Coupled with Bait and Switch or Target Lock for damage. Frenzy and Hatchling are both great for neutral add clear potential." Recommended MW: Handling.
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Appended Mag
Reconstruction
Frenzy
Envious Assassin
Hatchling
Bait and Switch
Target Lock
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Flared Magwell
Smallbore
Corkscrew Rifling
Community wishlist roll
48 wishlist rolls
Inspired by @PodvsEnemies Podcast vs Enemies episode 106 from 18 June 2024 (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GYlriUxhFqNHGLqb84C1G?si=bb5a2c9b339d4c35) with @ImpetusAlways, @CourtProjects and @Saint_Kabr. First-choice PvE pick for sustained DPS against Bosses in end-game content. Shapeable. Pro Memoria - which means "for memory" in Latin, and is also the name for a formal note embodying the written record of a diplomatic discussion - is the first in a new aggressive frame LMG subtype. It's described as "high damage", so should be good in a few different roles but with high recoil, look to the barrel perk to provide help with control and a little extra handling. As the magazine perk, for sustained boss damage, you'll want a perk that increases mag size or possibly helps a little more with recoil control. For sustained damage, in the first trait perk column, choose between Reconstruction for an effortless overflowed mag or Envious Assassin for a potentially bigger overflowed mag that needs add kills. In the second column, Target Lock or Bait and Switch (although the swap speed isn't great) make the most of your bullets in a sustained boss DPS phase. The Dealer's Choice origin trait is nice to have (who doesn't love more super energy?) - with two or three Pale Heart weapons, you'll notice the difference! Recommended MW: Handling or Stability, with a Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-Boss, PvE-BossSpec, PvE-EndGame, PvE-God, M+KB, Controller
Strong alternatives
Target Lock
Arrowhead Brake
Envious Assassin
Ricochet Rounds
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Smallbore
Polygonal Rifling
High-Caliber Rounds
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Reconstruction
Bait and Switch
Community wishlist roll
40 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS in a damage phase against a single yellow-bar target in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particular with Prismatic builds. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size work best for a boss damage roll. For a sustained damage roll, in the first trait perk column Demolitionist provides an instant magazine refill on grenade use and chunk grenade ability energy on kills. In the second column for damage Elemental Honing grants an escalating stack of damage up to ×1.35 for 23s for each elemental damage type inflicted, which can be refreshed with a new damage type until you've run through all 5. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Elemental Honing
Demolitionist
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Extended Mag
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
40 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS in a damage phase against a single yellow-bar target in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particular with Prismatic builds. Pro Memoria is an aggressive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "best balance of DPS and total amongst LMGs, stagger intrinsic good". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Unstoppable, but no other benefit as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is just to the right of vertical but pretty tight so you could improve recoil control or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size work best for a boss damage roll. For a sustained damage roll, in the first trait perk column Demolitionist provides an instant magazine refill on grenade use and chunk grenade ability energy on kills. In the second column for damage Bait and Switch boosts damage by ×1.3 for 11s for doing damage with your other two weapons. Aegis ranks the Dealer's Choice origin trait as S-Tier - it provides an escalating bonus to super generation on a kill, depending on how many other Dealer's Choice weapons are equipped - this is the fastest way bar none to generating super energy. If you're interested, the name translates to "as a memorial" or "for a memory/ remembrance", and links to the ghost Targe reflecting on his bond with Zavala. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Bait and Switch
Demolitionist
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Extended Mag
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
pandapaxxy
pvp
controller
24 wishlist rolls
pandapaxxy (PvP / Controller): "Pro Memoria having an incredibly quick 0.40s TtK at 5 crits ties Rapid-Fire frames for the fastest neutral TtK while also being easier to control. Hatchling allows for some chip damage on the next target and Strand synergy. Tap the Trigger giving you full bonuses for the entirety of your TtK." Recommended MW: Range.
Strong alternatives
Hatchling
Arrowhead Brake
Ricochet Rounds
Tap the Trigger
Demolitionist
Strategist
Dragonfly
High-Caliber Rounds
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Smallbore
Community wishlist roll
15 wishlist rolls
Inspired by @PodvsEnemies Podcast vs Enemies episode 106 from 18 June 2024 (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GYlriUxhFqNHGLqb84C1G?si=bb5a2c9b339d4c35) with @ImpetusAlways, @CourtProjects and @Saint_Kabr. First-choice PvE pick for add-clearing in end-game content, particularly with Strand fragments. Shapeable. Pro Memoria - which means "for memory" in Latin, and is also the name for a formal note embodying the written record of a diplomatic discussion - is the first in a new aggressive frame LMG subtype. It's described as "high damage", so should be good in a few different roles but with high recoil, look to the barrel perk to provide help with control and a little extra handling. As the magazine perk, for sustained boss damage, you'll want a perk that increases mag size or possibly helps a little more with recoil control. As a "heavy scout rifle" to use with Strand fragments, you should be getting easy headshot add kills to spawn threadlings with the Hatchling trait perk in the first column. Then Desperate Measures is easy to proc with Transcendent for up to +30% damage, you should be creating plenty of strand tangles to proc Collective Action's +20% damage, or Frenzy is a reliable +15% plus maxxed handling and reload speed. The Dealer's Choice origin trait is nice to have (who doesn't love more super energy?) - with two or three Pale Heart weapons, you'll notice the difference! Recommended MW: Stability or Handling, with a Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-MajorSpec, PvE-EndGame, PvE-God, M+KB, Controller
Essential perks
Hatchling
Desperate Measures
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Ricochet Rounds
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Smallbore
Polygonal Rifling
High-Caliber Rounds
Armor-Piercing Rounds
pandapaxxy
pvp
mkb
8 wishlist rolls
pandapaxxy (PvP / M+KB): "Pro Memoria having an incredibly quick 0.40s TtK at 5 crits ties Rapid-Fire frames for the fastest neutral TtK while also being easier to control. Hatchling allows for some chip damage on the next target and Strand synergy. Tap the Trigger giving you full bonuses for the entirety of your TtK." Recommended MW: Range.
Essential perks
Extended Barrel
Strong alternatives
Hatchling
Ricochet Rounds
Tap the Trigger
Demolitionist
Strategist
Dragonfly
High-Caliber Rounds
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