Uncivil Discourse god roll & best perks

Uncivil Discourse — Destiny 2 Hand Cannon
Legendary · Hand Cannon

“"Barant Imperium came up outta nowhere—and they brought new energy tech with'em. I kitbashed this beauty 'outta their goods." —The Drifter”

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Built from 442 curated wishlist rolls for this Hand Cannon. Perks marked essential appear in every roll of a recommendation; alternatives are the other perks curators call worth keeping.

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Community wishlist roll

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Inspired by @CourtProjects, @Saint_Kabr and @ImpetusAlways (PvE PvE-MajorSpec PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for burst damage against Banes, Majors, Champions and Minibosses in both general at-level or better, and end-game underleveled content. Uncivil Discourse is the first of a new subfamily of special ammo Dynamic Heat hand cannons which are rated A-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic tiering spreadsheet https://linktr.ee/TheAegisRelic, providing an intrinsic ×1.15 damage boost against red-bar enemies and ×1.325 against orange and yellow bars and vehicles, plus a ×0.5 heat generation if you manually cancel a vent animation at <12.5% of maximum heat, as per the https://www.destiny2.science/ Destiny Data Compendium. The there's nothing to really compare this against, but you can see https://d2foundry.gg/w/2462965802 for how the weapon stats impact in-game performance. You might find you need a little help with the recoil control from the barrel perk, although extra Handling is also nice. For the battery perk, Overclocked Heatsink provides free ×1.02 damage for a slightly slower vent speed - not a problem if you manually reload anyway - Particle Repeater helps Stability or Light Heatsink or Tactical Heatsink improve gunfeel. There plenty of good rolls available for burst damage, or backup boss damage - Air Trigger, mostly for the +20 Ammo Generation making double special weapon loadouts easier to maintain, but also for the ability to jump reload is probably the top first trait perk column park, but anything that improves manual vent speed is worth considering. In the second column, Jolting Feedback applies Jolt after 7 hits (6 when enhanced and 4 when amplified) to tougher enemies who can survive the weapon damage, triggering chain lightning on further hits for both target and AoE damage, but Frenzy's here, as is Precision Instrument and Desperate Measures for builds that spam melee or grenade abilities. Thermal Atomization is more of a "one for the Vault just in case they fix the explosion damage" choice. For the Origin Trait Air-Cooled Core improves handling and ADS speed when heat is <10%, and boosts Vent Speed for 6s after sprinting. If you're very lucky you'll drop a weapon with the much better option of Accelerated Assault which passively reduces heat by 10% and boosts damage by ×1.05 for getting 3 hits within 1.6s. If you're interested, it's modelled on the DL-44 blaster pistol used by Han Solo. Recommended MW: Handling or Stability, with your preferred choice of mod to boost heat generation, weapon stats, ammo regeneration, or elemental pickups for builds - and don't forget to check any available seasonal fragile mods.|tags:PvE PvE-MajorSpec PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller

Strong alternatives

Arrowhead Brake Overclocked Heatsink Air Trigger Jolting Feedback Frenzy Precision Instrument Desperate Measures Thermal Atomization Keep Away Outlaw Light Heatsink Tactical Heatsink Enhanced Heatsink Extended Barrel Chambered Compensator Fluted Barrel

SpaceMonkey

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SpaceMonkey (PvE): "A cool new weapon type but sadly pretty pigeonholed in usage. It is the best Lucky Pants hand cannon by a wiiiiide margin now, especially if you can pick up an Accelerated Assault roll. Outside of that in PvE it's basically just a worse sniper rifle, and special snipers have had a rough time in PvE for a while now. In PvP this thing melts - it's basically a better Forerunner." Recommended MW: Handling, Stability.

Strong alternatives

Opening Shot Delicate Tuning Fluted Barrel Light Heatsink Precision Instrument Lone Wolf Keep Away Particle Repeater Projection Fuse Tactical Heatsink Corkscrew Rifling Arrowhead Brake

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Inspired by https://www.youtube.com/@cammycakesgaming (PvP PvP-Duel PvP-God M+KB Controller): God-roll PvP for 6s. Uncivil Discourse is, right now, an S/A-Tier special ammo 180RPM hand cannon that's borderline oppressive in PvP - probably twice as good as Forerunner. It's a Heat weapon - which means you get an ersatz Reconstruction for free from the passive cooling, so you just have to run over ammo blocks to auto-reload. The Dynamic Heat frame means that when you cancel a manual vent at <12.5%, you get ×0.5 heat generation for 6s or until stowed. The @hugowo_ spreadsheet at https://www.destiny2.science/, shows the TTK, at base, is 0.667s (2c1b). There's nothing to compare against, but the stats are high across the board, especially with enhanced perks. You can see the in-game effect of stat changes at https://d2foundry.gg/w/2462965802 for yourself, once the formulas have been worked out. For the barrel perk, with all the stats being so high, there's no wrong choice - if you're using Shrewd Survivor armour the two-piece Reflex Action perk boosts Handling so Range or Stability work. For the Battery Perk, the only real choice is Overclocked Heatsink - with this perk alone providing a ×1.02 damage boost. For a duelling roll, in the first trait perk column Lone Wolf is the top choice to improve Aim Assist, Airborne Effectiveness and ADS speed. Alternatively Delicate Tuning works like a Heat weapon's mirror to Closing Time, boosting Range, Handling and Accuracy when a weapon's cold with the benefits reducing to half strength at 50% heat, or Keep Away boosts Reload, Range and Accuracy when there's no enemies within 15m. In the second column, Precision Instrument means you can 1c2b with a 160 weapons stat, or Opening Shot makes hitting your first crit easier. The Air-Cooled Core origin trait is only really relevant with manual vents (reloads) - you'll have boosted Reload Speed after sprinting which procs the better Handling and ADS movement speed after reloading, but unfortunately to proc Accelerated Assault you need to hit 3 times with 1.2-4s between each hit for the cooling and extra damage which isn't ideal if you're trying to hit an optimal TTK. Recommended MW: Cooling Efficiency, with a Heat Generated mod/enhanced mod, or your choice depending on your play style.|tags:PvP PvP-Duel PvP-God M+KB Controller

Essential perks

Overclocked Heatsink

Strong alternatives

Precision Instrument Arrowhead Brake Lone Wolf Opening Shot Delicate Tuning Keep Away Fluted Barrel Corkscrew Rifling Smallbore Chambered Compensator Extended Barrel Full Bore Hammer-Forged Rifling Polygonal Rifling

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Inspired by https://www.youtube.com/@cammycakesgaming (PvP PvP-KillChain PvP-God M+KB Controller): God-roll PvP for kill-chaining. Uncivil Discourse is, right now, an S/A-Tier special ammo 180RPM hand cannon that's borderline oppressive in PvP - probably twice as good as Forerunner. It's a Heat weapon - which means you get an ersatz Reconstruction for free from the passive cooling, so you just have to run over ammo blocks to auto-reload. The Dynamic Heat frame means that when you cancel a manual vent at <12.5%, you get ×0.5 heat generation for 6s or until stowed. The @hugowo_ spreadsheet at https://www.destiny2.science/, shows the TTK - at base, the TTK is 0.667s (2c1b). There's nothing to compare against, but the stats are high across the board, especially with enhanced perks. You can see the in-game effect of stat changes at https://d2foundry.gg/w/2462965802 for yourself, once the formulas have been worked out. For the barrel perk, with all the stats being so high, there's no wrong choice - if you're using Shrewd Survivor armour the two-piece Reflex Action perk boosts Handling so Range or Stability work. For the Battery Perk, the only real choice is Overclocked Heatsink - with this perk alone providing a ×1.02 damage boost. For a duelling roll, in the first trait perk column Lone Wolf is the top choice to improve Aim Assist, Airborne Effectiveness and ADS speed. Alternatively Delicate Tuning works like a Heat weapon's mirror to Closing Time, boosting Range, Handling and Accuracy when a weapon's cold with the benefits reducing to half strength at 50% heat, or Keep Away boosts Reload, Range and Accuracy when there's no enemies within 15m. In the second column, Desperate Measures ×1 plus Radiant (or any other ability damage boost) will allow a 0.333s (2c0b) kill with a 169 weapon stat. Less spectacular but also useful if you like hipfiring, there's Offhand Strike to make follow-up hits easier to land. The Air-Cooled Core origin trait is only really relevant with manual vents (reloads) - you'll have boosted Reload Speed after sprinting which procs the better Handling and ADS movement speed after reloading, but unfortunately to proc Accelerated Assault you need to hit 3 times with 1.2-4s between each hit for the cooling and extra damage which isn't ideal if you're trying to hit an optimal TTK. Recommended MW: Cooling Efficiency, with a Heat Generated mod/enhanced mod, or your choice depending on your play style.|tags:PvP PvP-KillChain PvP-God M+KB Controller

Essential perks

Overclocked Heatsink

Strong alternatives

Arrowhead Brake Desperate Measures Lone Wolf Offhand Strike Delicate Tuning Keep Away Fluted Barrel Corkscrew Rifling Smallbore Chambered Compensator Extended Barrel Full Bore Hammer-Forged Rifling Polygonal Rifling

SpaceMonkey

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SpaceMonkey (PvP): "A cool new weapon type but sadly pretty pigeonholed in usage. It is the best Lucky Pants hand cannon by a wiiiiide margin now, especially if you can pick up an Accelerated Assault roll. Outside of that in PvE it's basically just a worse sniper rifle, and special snipers have had a rough time in PvE for a while now. In PvP this thing melts - it's basically a better Forerunner." Recommended MW: Cooling Efficiency, Handling, Reload.

Essential perks

Precision Instrument

Strong alternatives

Quickdraw Overclocked Heatsink Fluted Barrel Cooling Baubles Light Heatsink Ionized Heatsink Air Trigger Keep Away Enhanced Heatsink Corkscrew Rifling Arrowhead Brake

SpaceMonkey

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SpaceMonkey (PvE / God-PvE): "A cool new weapon type but sadly pretty pigeonholed in usage. It is the best Lucky Pants hand cannon by a wiiiiide margin now, especially if you can pick up an Accelerated Assault roll. Outside of that in PvE it's basically just a worse sniper rifle, and special snipers have had a rough time in PvE for a while now. In PvP this thing melts - it's basically a better Forerunner." Recommended MW: Handling.

Essential perks

Delicate Tuning Precision Instrument Fluted Barrel Light Heatsink

What these Uncivil Discourse perks do

Precision Instrument

Direct Weapon Hits grant a stack of Precision Instrument for 1.25 seconds (2.1 seconds on weapons with a Draw/Charge Time). Maximum of 6 stacks. Reloading the weapon (except on Bows) or missing removes all stacks... usually. Heavy Burst Frame weapons can only gain 1 stack per burst. Adaptive Burst Linear Fusion Rifles require 1.5? Hits for each stack (and missing sometimes does not remove your stacks on them). Precision damage increase at 1|2|... stacks: 4.17% | 8.33% | 12.5% | 16.67% | 20.83% | 25%

Overclocked Heatsink

Passively grants 2% increased damage and 10 decreased Cooling Efficiency stat.

Lone Wolf

Passively grants 5 Aim Assist, 15 Airborne Effectiveness, and a 10% decreased ADS Animation Duration. While no allies are within 15 meters: Bonuses are increased to 10 Aim Assist, 30 Airborne Effectiveness, and a 20% decreased ADS Animation Duration.

Opening Shot

Grants the following benefits for your first shot (of the burst): • 20 Aim Assist and 25 Range • 5% decreased Accuracy Cone Size • 10% decreased Accuracy Cone Growth Special weapons only receive 50% of the benefits. Stats are rounded up. Firing the weapon prevents the perk from activating for 3 seconds.

Delicate Tuning

Grants linearly decreasing benefits as Weapon Heat increases from 0% to 50%: • 20 to 10 Range • ? to ? Handling • ? to ? decreased Accuracy Cone Growth

Keep Away

While no enemies are within 15 meters: Grants 10 Range, 30 Reload Speed, and decreases Accuracy Cone Growth by 5?%.

Desperate Measures

Weapon Kills grant 'Desperate Measures x1' (DMx1), increasing damage by 10% for 7 seconds. Grenade or Melee Kills grant 20% increased damage for 7 seconds (DMx2). Scoring another Grenade or Melee Kill with DMx2 active increases this to 30% (DMx3). Can be activated while stowed. Weapon, Grenade, and Melee Kills refresh the buff duration.

Offhand Strike

Weapon Kills grant the following benefits to hip-firing for 7 seconds: • 30 Stability • 45% increased Damage Falloff Distance • ~3° larger Precision Aim Angle • 95%? decreased Accuracy Cone Size • 95%? decreased Accuracy Cone Growth. Buff is removed on stow.

Air Trigger

Passively grants 20 Ammo Generation Stat. (Equivalent of 1 Ammo Generation Armor Mod) Being Airborne grants the following benefits: • 30 Reload Speed • 0.8x Reload Duration Multiplier • 15?% decreased Accuracy Cone Size • 20?% decreased Auto Aim Cone Size

Jolting Feedback

Scoring multiple Direct Hits with the weapon within 3 seconds of each causes the next Direct Hit to apply Jolt. Being Amplified decreases the number of Hits required. Hits needed to activate normally | while Amplified: • Submachine Guns, Trace Rifles: 18 | 13 • Machine Guns: 16 | 11 • Auto Rifles: 15 | 11 • Pulse Rifles: 14 | 9 • Sidearms: 10 | 7 • Rocket Pulse Rifle: 8 | 5 • Scout Rifles, Hand Cannons: 7 | 6 • Swords: 6 | 4 • Glaives, Linear Fusion Rifles: 4 | 3 • Rocket Sidearm, Sniper Rifle?: 4 | 2 • Bows, Grenade Launchers: 3 | 2 • Shotguns, Aggressive Frame Fusion Rifle: 3|1

Frenzy

After being in Combat for 12 seconds: Grants 15% increased damage, 100 Handling, and 100 Reload Speed for 7.2 seconds. Works and can activate while stowed. Dealing and receiving damage refreshes the buff duration. For Frenzy, being in Combat is defined as having either dealt or received damage within the last 5 seconds. Self-damage and environmental damage do not count.

Thermal Atomization

While above 50% Heat: • Grants 8.25% [3.5] to 14% [?] increased weapon damage as Heat increases from 50% to 100% • Enemies explode on direct damage kills, dealing up ? damage matching the weapon's element in a 7.5 meter radius. Detonation damage by weapon type: • Hand Cannons: 74 (lol) [77?] • Submachine Guns: 289 [?] • Sniper Rifles: 552 [?] Detonation damage falls off to 0% damage at the edge of the radius. Does not buff the Splash/Explosive damage elements of other perks.

Outlaw

Precision Kills grant 70 Reload Speed with a 0.9x decreased Reload Animation Duration for 6 seconds. Buff is removed on stow.

Quickdraw

Switching to the Weapon grants 100 Ready/Stow Handling and a 0.95x Ready Animation Duration Multiplier for 1 second. Buff is removed as soon as ADS input is pressed.

Cooling Baubles

Collecting an Orb of Power or Elemental Pickup dissipates 33% Weapon Heat. Elemental Pickups include Firesprites, Ionic Traces, Stasis Shards, Tangles, and Void Breaches.

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