Built from 311 curated wishlist rolls for this Machine Gun. Perks marked essential appear in every roll of a recommendation; alternatives are the other perks curators call worth keeping.
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Community wishlist roll
128 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS against a single yellow-bar target activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Retrofit Escapade is a rapid fire LMG, which are rated C-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "good damage profile but mediocre total damage and worst recoil of any LMG frame". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Overload, better total ammo reserves and a ×0.8 reload animation scalar when the magazine is empty as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is vertical but loose so you should improve recoil control or look to boost Stability with your barrel perk to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effect mags, or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are fine. For tougher adds, in the first trait perk column Fourth Time's the Charm generates 2 shots from thin air after 4 crits within 3s of each other, almost doubling your total ammo if you can keep hitting crits, or you could run double special with Field Prep which grants +55 Reload Speed with a ×0.8 animation scalar to both reload and ready/stow when crouched, and bumps Ammo Generation by a hefty +40 to generate regular ammo bricks with Abundant Ammo or Bandolier. Alternatively, Stats for All boosts Handling and Reload Speed by +35 with a ×0.95 reload animation scalar, and Stability and Range by +10 with a ×1.05 damage dropoff distance for a non-refreshable 11s, after hitting three separate targets within 3s of each or Feeding Frenzy kills provide up to 5 stacks for max +100 Reload Speed with a ×0.8 animation scalar for 3.5s. In the second column for damage, One For All boosts damage by ×1.35 for a non-refreshable 11s after hitting three separate targets within 3s of each. Aegis ranks the Ambush origin trait as A-Tier - it improves both Range and Handling by +20 (+22 enhanced) and damage by ×1.1078 for 2s after first dealing or receiving damage. There's also the E-Tier for PvE Suros Synergy which grants +30 Handling and ×1.2 flinch resistance for 6s after reloading. If you're interested, the name carries a deeper thematic meaning that reflects the Season of the Seraph storyline, where players "retrofitted" old Warmind technology to avert an impending disaster. Literally, a retrofit means modifying an existing structure with new, updated parts, while an escapade refers to a wild, reckless adventure or an escape from a confining situation. Together, the name serves as a linguistic nod to the Tower's desperate, improvised mission: cobbled-together technology used in a high-stakes, chaotic operation to escape a looming apocalypse. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
One for All
Strong alternatives
Tactical Mag
Arrowhead Brake
Fourth Time's the Charm
Field Prep
Stats for All
Feeding Frenzy
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
40 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS against a single yellow-bar target activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Retrofit Escapade is a rapid fire LMG, which are rated C-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "good damage profile but mediocre total damage and worst recoil of any LMG frame". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Overload, better total ammo reserves and a ×0.8 reload animation scalar when the magazine is empty as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is vertical but loose so you should improve recoil control or look to boost Stability with your barrel perk to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effect mags, or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are fine. For sustained boss damage, in the first trait perk column Fourth Time's the Charm generates 2 shots from thin air after 4 crits within 3s of each other, almost doubling your total ammo if you can keep hitting crits. In the second column for damage, Target Lock stacks up to 5 times on repeated hits within 0.2s of each other for up to ×1.4 damage at 110.33% of base magazine capacity - so works well with FttC refilling the mag. Aegis ranks the Ambush origin trait as A-Tier - it improves both Range and Handling by +20 (+22 enhanced) and damage by ×1.1078 for 2s after first dealing or receiving damage. There's also the E-Tier for PvE Suros Synergy which grants +30 Handling and ×1.2 flinch resistance for 6s after reloading. If you're interested, the name carries a deeper thematic meaning that reflects the Season of the Seraph storyline, where players "retrofitted" old Warmind technology to avert an impending disaster. Literally, a retrofit means modifying an existing structure with new, updated parts, while an escapade refers to a wild, reckless adventure or an escape from a confining situation. Together, the name serves as a linguistic nod to the Tower's desperate, improvised mission: cobbled-together technology used in a high-stakes, chaotic operation to escape a looming apocalypse. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller)
Essential perks
Target Lock
Fourth Time's the Charm
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Extended Mag
Appended Mag
Tactical Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
38 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. Backup PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake, or boost stability with your barrel perk. Add your choice of extra shots, stability and reload speed with the mag. To lean into the Void 3.0 sandbox, give yourself as much ammo and uptime in the first trait column with Stats for All, Field Prep, Fourth Time's the Charm or Feeding Frenzy to take advantage of Golden Tricorn's 50% bonus damage with two stacks, using your choice of void grenade or melee. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Golden Tricorn
Strong alternatives
Tactical Mag
Stats for All
Fluted Barrel
Polygonal Rifling
Arrowhead Brake
Flared Magwell
Appended Mag
Extended Mag
Field Prep
Fourth Time's the Charm
Feeding Frenzy
Community wishlist roll
36 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. First-choice PvE roll for general content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake, or boost stability with your barrel perk. Add your choice of extra shots, stability and reload speed with the mag. For general add clear, use Stats for All, Field Prep, or Feeding Frenzy for maximum uptime in your first trait column, and the old favourite Rampage in the second to stack up to 33% bonus damage on kills. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Rampage
Strong alternatives
Tactical Mag
Arrowhead Brake
Feeding Frenzy
Fluted Barrel
Polygonal Rifling
Flared Magwell
Appended Mag
Extended Mag
Stats for All
Field Prep
Community wishlist roll
29 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. Backup PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake, or boost stability with your barrel perk. Add your choice of extra shots, stability and reload speed with the mag. For end-game add clear, use Stats for All, Field Prep, or Feeding Frenzy for maximum uptime in your first trait column, and the reliable Frenzy in the second for an easy to use 15% damage boost. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Minor, Major or Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Frenzy
Strong alternatives
Tactical Mag
Stats for All
Fluted Barrel
Polygonal Rifling
Arrowhead Brake
Flared Magwell
Appended Mag
Extended Mag
Field Prep
Feeding Frenzy
pandapaxxy
pve
mkb
controller
27 wishlist rolls
pandapaxxy (PvE / M+KB / Controller): "I dislike 900 rpm machine guns. They don’t feel very strong for how fast they fire. If I had some good Rambo moments where I could shred hordes of low-tier adds without having to recoil control that much I would love it. But having the lowest base stats across the machine gun archetypes and the fastest rpm makes them unwieldy. Arrowhead brake will bring up the terribly low recoil direction and having more in the magazine means you can be off target for 0.001s and not waste half your ammo. Feeding frenzy and field prep are both ways to bump up the decent reload speed. Golden tricorn will get you the best bang for your glimmer when paired with a void subclass. All void subclasses are viable in end game content so that’s not an issue. Frenzy is best when not on a void subclass and vorpal will allow you to do increased but not substantial damage in and out of combat." Recommended MW - Reload.
Essential perks
Arrowhead Brake
Strong alternatives
Appended Mag
Golden Tricorn
Feeding Frenzy
Flared Magwell
Tactical Mag
Field Prep
Fourth Time's the Charm
Frenzy
Vorpal Weapon
Community wishlist roll
4 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. Backup PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten things up with additional stability. For damage against a single target, you want your magazine as large as it will go, so look for Extended or Appended. Then extend the magazine with Fourth Time's the Charm, or improve your ammo reserves and reload with Field Prep in the first trait column to give Target Lock's 40& bonus to damage as much uptime as possible. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a Backup Mag or damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-Boss, PvE-MajorSpec, PvE-BossSpec, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Target Lock
Field Prep
Strong alternatives
Fluted Barrel
Extended Mag
Polygonal Rifling
Appended Mag
Community wishlist roll
3 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. Backup PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake, or boost stability with your barrel perk. Add your choice of extra shots, stability and reload speed with the mag. Rapid-fires have plenty of rounds to proc the SOFA (Stats/One for All) trait combination. Bonus handling, stability, range and reload speed, plus a 35% boost to damage just for hitting three different enemies. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Stats for All
Extended Mag
One for All
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Fluted Barrel
Polygonal Rifling
pandapaxxy
pvp
mkb
2 wishlist rolls
pandapaxxy (PvP / M+KB): "Let me issue you a challenge. If you kill me in PvP with this weapon I will uninstall Destiny 2. [...] In other news, go for consistency perks as the base stats are so low they are almost non-existent. Arrowhead break will make the recoil easier. Accurized rounds will push out your effective range. Heating up will better your stability and recoil direction further, but you have to get a kill first. Tap the trigger won’t last long, but will help you get some damage on target." Recommended MW - Range.
Essential perks
Arrowhead Brake
Heating Up
Accurized Rounds
Strong alternatives
Tap the Trigger
Rampage
Community wishlist roll
2 wishlist rolls
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. First-choice PvE roll for general content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake. For damage against a single target, you want your magazine as large as it will go, so look for Extended or Appended. Then extend the magazine with Fourth Time's the Charm, or improve your ammo reserves and reload with Field Prep in the first trait column to give Target Lock's 40& bonus to damage as much uptime as possible. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a Backup Mag or damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-Boss, PvE-MajorSpec, PvE-BossSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Target Lock
Arrowhead Brake
Field Prep
Strong alternatives
Extended Mag
Appended Mag
Community wishlist roll
1 wishlist roll
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. First-choice PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake. Tactical Mag adds a few extra shots, plus stability and reload speed. To lean into the Void 3.0 sandbox, give yourself as much ammo and uptime in the first trait column with Stats for All, Field Prep, Fourth Time's the Charm or Feeding Frenzy to take advantage of Golden Tricorn's 50% bonus damage with two stacks, using your choice of void grenade or melee. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Major, Boss or Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Tactical Mag
Arrowhead Brake
Stats for All
Golden Tricorn
Community wishlist roll
1 wishlist roll
Inspired by DMB PvE Podcast 44. First-choice PvE roll for end-game content. Shapeable. The Ambush origin trait is probably more for PvP than PvE, with the extra range, handling and 10% boost to damage for a few moments after combat starts, although Suros Synergy's flinch reduction in reload is useful in a firefight too so take your pick. This is better in every stat than the only other rapid fire LMG - Shattered Cypher - and there are a few ways you can go with a weapon build. You'll need to control your fire with short bursts - so, to make it easier, tighten up the recoil direction with Arrowhead Brake. Tactical Mag adds a few extra shots, plus stability and reload speed. For end-game add clear, use Stats for All, Field Prep, or Feeding Frenzy for maximum uptime in your first trait column, and the reliable Frenzy in the second for an easy to use 15% damage boost. Recommended MW: Stability or Reload Speed, with a damage-boosting (Minor, Major, Taken Spec) or Backup Mag mod.|tags: PvE, PvE-MinorSpec, PvE-God, PvE-EndGame, Controller, M+KB
Essential perks
Tactical Mag
Arrowhead Brake
Stats for All
Frenzy
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