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Built from 656 curated wishlist rolls for this Machine Gun. Perks marked essential appear in every roll of a recommendation; alternatives are the other perks curators call worth keeping.
Recommended rolls
Community wishlist roll
144 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particularly on Strand builds. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effects mags or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, in the first trait perk column there are plenty of options to help with slow reloads - Fourth Time's the Charm generates 2 shots from thin air after 4 crits within 3s of each other, almost doubling your total ammo if you can keep hitting crits, Demolitionist generates chunk grenade ability energy on kills and an instant magazine refill on grenade use, or Firefly procs a 4m AoE Solar explosion on a crit kill plus +50 Reload Speed for 6s - this counts as weapon damage so can proc weapon traits like Demolitionist, as well as Firefly procs a 4m AoE Solar explosion on a crit kill plus +50 Reload Speed for 6s - this counts as weapon damage so can inherit damage boosts, and also proc subclass fragments and weapon traits like Hatchling in the second column which spawns a Strand Threadling on a crit kill or three crit hits within 3s of each other. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Hatchling
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Fourth Time's the Charm
High-Caliber Rounds
Demolitionist
Firefly
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
144 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particularly on Strand builds. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effects mags or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, in the first trait perk column there are plenty of options to help with slow reloads - Overflow refills the magazine and boosts its capacity to ×2.2 of base, rounded up, on picking up an ammo brick, or Enlightened Action builds stacks on hits for a refreshable 2s that build after 12 hits to a max +55 Handling and Reload Speed. In the second column, Hatchling spawns a Strand Threadling on a crit kill or three crit hits within 3s of each other. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Hatchling
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
High-Caliber Rounds
Overflow
Enlightened Action
Ambitious Assassin
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
144 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effects mags or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. For an all-purpose roll, for killing tougher Minor adds but which can also be used for the occasional boss fight, in the first trait perk column Fourth Time's the Charm generates 2 shots from thin air after 4 crits within 3s of each other, almost doubling your total ammo if you can keep hitting crits, Demolitionist provides an instant magazine refill on grenade use and chunk grenade ability energy on kills, or Overflow refills the magazine and boosts its capacity to ×2.2 of base, rounded up, on picking up an ammo brick. Use those to keep Killing Tally procced - it gains a stack for each enemy killed up to ×3 to boost damage by up to ×1.3 until you reload or stow. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Killing Tally
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Fourth Time's the Charm
High-Caliber Rounds
Demolitionist
Overflow
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
96 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particularly on Strand builds. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effects mags or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, in the first trait perk column you'll need something to help boost reload - Enlightened Action builds stacks on hits for a refreshable 2s that build after 12 hits to a max +55 Handling and Reload Speed, or Firefly procs a 4m AoE Solar explosion on a crit kill plus +50 Reload Speed for 6s - this counts as weapon damage so can inherit damage boosts, and also proc subclass fragments. For damage, in the second column Mega Kill Clip boosts damage by ×1.4 with a duration of 3s + (2s × the number of kills) up to a max 20s, on a reload within 5s of a kill. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Mega Kill Clip
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
High-Caliber Rounds
Enlightened Action
Firefly
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
80 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for sustained DPS against a single yellow-bar target in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particularly on Prismatic builds. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size work best for a boss damage roll. For sustained boss damage, in the first trait perk column - Fourth Time's the Charm generates 2 shots from thin air after 4 crits within 3s of each other, almost doubling your total ammo if you can keep hitting crits, or Demolitionist provides an instant magazine refill on grenade use and chunk grenade ability energy on kills. For damage, in the second column Elemental Honing grants an escalating stack of damage up to a max ×1.35 for 23s for each elemental damage type inflicted, which can be refreshed with a new damage type until you've run through all 5. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Boss PvE-SustainedDamage PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Elemental Honing
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
Fourth Time's the Charm
Extended Mag
Demolitionist
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Light Mag
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Community wishlist roll
48 wishlist rolls
Constructed by @Adamsdown_Boy (PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller): First-choice PvE roll for individual Minor adds or tougher enemies in activities rated Normal, Hard or Very Hard difficulty, particularly on grenade builds. Circular Logic is an adaptive LMG, which are rated B-Tier for endgame PvE by @TheAegisRelic Endgame Analysis Spreadsheet, who says "technically a strict downgrade to aggressive damage profile, but barrier intrinsic is noticeable". The frame intrinsic offers built in Anti-Barrier, but no other benefits as per the Destiny Data Compendium. The recoil direction is right but pretty tight so you could improve Recoil Direction or look to boost Stability to help hit crits, or Handling if you can land your shots. In the magazine perk slot, any of the combat effects mags or perks that improve Reload Speed or mag size are the best available. To clear adds, perhaps supporting a double special loadout, there's the trait perk combo of Demolitionist generates chunk grenade ability energy on kills and an instant magazine refill on grenade use - you can use those grenades to help proc Desperate Measures which provides up to ×3 stacks for a max ×1.3 damage for a refreshable 7.5s for a weapon and then two ability kills. Aegis ranks the Nanotech Tracer Missile origin trait as A-Tier -generating a tracking elemental micro missile for landing ~23 hits on a target within 6s of each other - with a 2s cooldown. If you're interested, "circular logic" is a psychological term for an argument that goes nowhere, looping back on its own unproven premises - which fits the messy, tangled web of thoughts and reflects the philosophy of Strand. Recommended MW: Handling, with your preferred choice of mod to boost weapon stats, ammo generation, or elemental pickups for builds.|tags:PvE PvE-Minor PvE-SingleAdd PvE-EndGame PvE-God M+KB Controller
Essential perks
Desperate Measures
Demolitionist
Strong alternatives
Arrowhead Brake
High-Caliber Rounds
Armor-Piercing Rounds
Ricochet Rounds
Appended Mag
Alloy Magazine
Flared Magwell
Chambered Compensator
Extended Barrel
Fluted Barrel
Corkscrew Rifling
Polygonal Rifling
Smallbore
Hammer-Forged Rifling
Recommendations aggregated from curated community wishlists; credit to the curators linked above.